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Why all the Gt hate?; It isnt that bad
Tweet Topic Started: May 18 2012, 04:46 AM (1,820 Views)
~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 04:24 PM Post #31
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	SSJ4 was the only thing I personally liked, but it completely failed when Vegeta could get SSJ4 without ''special help.'' Toei = Goku fanboys



FollowtheLeader	May 23 2012, 06:00 PM Post #32
Posts: 1,653 Group: Member Member #7,064 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Manga Berserk	Why all the hate? Simpru. 1. SS4 Made Goku, Vegeta, and Gogeta into furries. 2. Uub didnt do jack *****. 3. Gohan was useless as always 4. Vegeta never reached SS3 5. The animation sucked 6. The music sucked. No Faulconer?! C'mon maaaine! 7. Pan. 8. What? That's all I have to say on the matter. 9. Overpowering. 10. When the viallins escape from HFIL, which looks terrible in GT, we see Cooler. No Broly? And all of a sudden, the movies are cannon now? 11. The SS2 transformations were lacking and hardly distinguishable from SS1. 12. Goku a kid again? Why?! 13. It wasn't more like Z/ 14. When Uub and Buu fused, I expected Uub to become more violent and mad, much like Kid Buu or something.



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 06:17 PM Post #33
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	SSJ4 Gogeta failed on many levels for me. It didn't even remind me of Gogeta. The color mesh sucked. Toei had an entire saga for a non canon character (Garlic Jr.) so there's you answer as to why Cooler is in Hell. Movies (the ones that are logical in the timeline) are canon to the anime, and DBGT is based off of the Toei Plothole DBZ anime. And I don't know why Oob would go crazy when he fused with Good Boo. Good Boo had all his rage removed, and Oob was a ''good guy'' by Goku's wish. Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 06:19 PM.



Master of Dragon Ball	May 23 2012, 08:50 PM Post #34
Posts: 578 Group: Duplicate Member #6,330 Joined: June 8, 2011 Favourite Anime Ask What Browser do you use? Ask Favourite Manga Obvious	Dragon Ball and GT were great. Z was terrible because everybody else got in on the action when it was Goku's show to begin with.



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 08:59 PM Post #35
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Master of Dragon Ball May 23 2012, 08:50 PM Dragon Ball and GT were great. Z was terrible because everybody else got in on the action when it was Goku's show to begin with. LOL, that's the single most arrogant comment I've ever heard you say on here. Are you sure you don't work for Toei? Edited by GridZero, May 23 2012, 08:59 PM.



Pookie	May 23 2012, 08:59 PM Post #36
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	I think Goku got enough screen time in DBZ. Dragonball Z is the reason why there are so many good characters that people like. Dragonball Z was supposed to be Gohan's era not Goku's. It's what Toriyama said himself. It would make sense because Goku's era was Dragonball. Edited by Pookie, May 23 2012, 09:00 PM.



Master of Dragon Ball	May 23 2012, 09:02 PM Post #37
Posts: 578 Group: Duplicate Member #6,330 Joined: June 8, 2011 Favourite Anime Ask What Browser do you use? Ask Favourite Manga Obvious	GridZero May 23 2012, 08:59 PM Master of Dragon Ball May 23 2012, 08:50 PM Dragon Ball and GT were great. Z was terrible because everybody else got in on the action when it was Goku's show to begin with. LOL, that's the single most arrogant comment I've ever heard you say on here. Are you sure you don't work for Toei? If I worked for Toei, I would be defending GT more often, do you think?



~~GridZero~~	May 23 2012, 09:53 PM Post #38
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Master of Dragon Ball May 23 2012, 09:02 PM GridZero May 23 2012, 08:59 PM Master of Dragon Ball May 23 2012, 08:50 PM Dragon Ball and GT were great. Z was terrible because everybody else got in on the action when it was Goku's show to begin with. LOL, that's the single most arrogant comment I've ever heard you say on here. Are you sure you don't work for Toei? If I worked for Toei, I would be defending GT more often, do you think? Well, you do have a GT avatar, the rest is pretty self explanatory.



Winner777	May 24 2012, 07:52 PM Post #39
Posts: 3 Group: New Member Member #7,626 Joined: May 11, 2012	Teen GohanZ May 21 2012, 12:52 PM Dragonball was incredibly heavily focused on Goku. Possibly moreso than GT. Goku went through pretty much the entire RRA arc by himself, with only Bulma and Krillin for a short while (And they did nothing), he was always getting to the finals of every tournament, he was pretty much the only character to be able to do anything at any point. Jackie Chun won the 21st Budokai, Yamcha beat Invisible man and Yajirobe beat Cymbal. That's about the only important things people who weren't Goku did in DB (Not counting villains obviously). GT at least had Goku, Trunks and Pan all doing something during the earlier episodes, and Pan doing stuff in the shadow dragon eps too. And added Vegeta towards the end being helpful. Not in dragonball though, if there was a villain in DB then Goku was the only person who would ever be allowed to even touch him. If it's a minor villain then they might let someone other than Goku do something, but usually not. I'm not saying I like GT for all the Goku focus, but to say GT focuses too much on Goku and the original Dragon ball doesn't is just being bias. I think there's a few reasons why the overemphasis on Goku is a factor in GT, but not so much in Dragonball. 1) Goku, as a character, was simply more interesting and likable in DB than he was in DBGT. In DB, Goku had a much better humor element to him, and wasn't really a typical superhero personality-wise. Throughout Z, he became more serious and more like a typical "good guy" hero. However, this is balanced out in Z by the interactions he has with other characters, like Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan. Then we get to GT, and we mostly lose the interactions between Goku-Piccolo, Vegeta-Goku, Goku-Gohan, as well Vegeta-Piccollo, Piccolo-Gohan, etc. So we're left with a character who was adapted to interact with others (as opposed to a solo show type character) like he did in Z, but in a DB-ish setting where he's the main attraction of the show again. Except now, his character is not really suited for that type of role anymore. By GT, he'd lost a lot of his interesting character traits, and then GT sort of highlights this by putting the spotlight on him so much. 2) In DB, the expectation is that the show will be focused on Goku because, well, the show IS always focused on Goku. In DBZ, they increased the character depth and screen time of non-Goku characters substantially. So the fans now want to see other characters that they've become fans of during Z. Yet in GT, the fans feel cheated because the screen is always on Goku. When they go back and watch DB though, they don't feel cheated because the expectation isn't that the screen will be on Piccolo, Vegeta, etc. because they haven't been introduced yet. Expectation plays a large part in how your going to react to the show. 3) While GT may have had similar amount of people around Goku in DB, or even possibly more, the primary GT supporting characters simply weren't interesting. Pan is one of least-liked characters in the DBZ trilogy, and she gets the second most screen time in the show (I think?). Giru? I cant even fathom why he was added in the first place. Even Trunks wasn't as good in GT. I think a lot of the problem with the "main" supporting characters in GT (Trunks, Giru, Pan) is that they get along TOO well. In every saga in Z, either Vegeta or Piccolo added some conflict to the "good guys." There was none of that in GT. This pretty much guaranteed that the plots would be straightforward "Bad guy appears, kill bad guy." As opposed to Z, where there was the "Should we really trust Piccolo?", or "Vegeta screwed it up again!," which actually allowed for some character conflicts i.e. Krillin/Tien not trusting Piccolo but Gohan did, Trunks trying to earn Vegeta's respect despite being very different. Edited by Winner777, May 24 2012, 07:54 PM.



Billa	May 24 2012, 08:21 PM Post #40
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	The reason that I hate GT: logical malefience. FPSSJ Goku vs Perfect Cell: One Full Power Kamehameha of FPSSJ could burst the Earth SSJ4 Goku vs Super 17: Kamehameha X10 was shot towards 17, facin the Earth.



adi	May 27 2012, 07:51 PM Post #41
Posts: 29 Group: Member Member #7,225 Joined: January 22, 2012 Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dragon ball x	Is have liked gt if they made manga for it, volumes 43-70 would be amazing
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+ Pyrus	May 27 2012, 07:53 PM Post #42
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri May 24 2012, 08:21 PM The reason that I hate GT: logical malefience. FPSSJ Goku vs Perfect Cell: One Full Power Kamehameha of FPSSJ could burst the Earth SSJ4 Goku vs Super 17: Kamehameha X10 was shot towards 17, facin the Earth. The Earth trained. Golden Oozaru Vegeta-Baby shot his ultimate attack straight at the planet and it didn't even seizure.
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~~GridZero~~	May 27 2012, 08:10 PM Post #43
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	There's a bunch of unexplainable plotholes still though, lol.



Megasaiyan	May 27 2012, 08:45 PM Post #44
Osz Karoly Szilard Posts: 977 Group: Member Member #7,360 Joined: February 25, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Haven't read any yet	GridZero May 27 2012, 08:10 PM There's a bunch of unexplainable plotholes still though, lol. Waaaaaaaaaaaay to many...And not just in GT.



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